[Jay]

JMcClure: Please see reply several posts below.

You guys are probably starting to think I am just no fun at all, huh?

New rule: No Political Discussion

My political views are probably quite a bit different from many of you on this site. The last thing I want is for anyone to get offended and quit coming here because of some off-topic discussion.

We are here to talk about ATVs. If you want to talk about other topics, go to KR or someplace that has an area for that.

I will remind you that the whole reason petty fights and bannings have been happening over at KR is DIRECTLY related to non-ATV discussions that have turned into verbal pissing contests.

I appreciate your cooperation and understanding.

 

[fullthrottle]

^^^ditto^^^^ uke:

 

[Guest]

Sorry if I offended with my post.. It wasn't meant to be political, directly, but rather an outrage that ANYONE would say that about our military personel....

I thought this was the area for general discussion??

 

[Jay]

Jody, what the hell is wrong with you? Why are you bringing the topic back up?

There are plenty of other topics that we can discuss without degenerating into a flame war, as discussions of politics and religion almost always do.

 

[RAWDAWG700]

I vote Jay for president!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Guest]

Originally posted by Jay
Jody, what the hell is wrong with you? Why are you bringing the topic back up?

There are plenty of other topics that we can discuss without degenerating into a flame war, as discussions of politics and religion almost always do.

Well I was trying to apologize!!!!! Geese... You have no reason to talk to me that way... Good Luck...

 

[Bruteforz05]

Re: No Politics Here

If you want to talk about other topics, go to KR or someplace that has an area for that.[/b]quote]

Then what is the pit stop for then? J/W I thought the pit stop was for misc./other topics...

I can see your point on politics though, but I do agree with JmClure on this one..... What was said was wrong...

LMAO- Jody, I just now seen your avatar.... Thats awesome.. LOL

 

[Jay]

Jody, I guess I can understand why your feelings are hurt. But look, I deleted the topic for a reason, then you made a SPECIFIC REFERENCE to the very topic I deleted. That invites everyone to weigh in with their opinion again. Does that explain where I'm coming from?

I never said you were violating rules when you made the initial post. However, reading the thread made me realize that politics is an area we need to avoid.

Clearly my attempt to avoid controversy has blown up in my face. But, if attempting to steer clear of politics is what kills the site, then I won't be sorry. I have other things I can devote my time and attention to.

 

[V-Nasty]

Simmer Down,Simmer Down----Now!

 

[Jay]

Okay, Jody, I formally, officially and sincerely apologize for taking a harsh tone.

I realize you did not intend to revive the topic. I hope you can forgive me for reacting harshly.

Let's all remember that Jay is human and slightly brain-damaged. (Okay, the brain damage is just a guess, but my wife would probably tell you it's correct.)

So where do we go from here?

I've gotten a lot of feedback that the ATV-only policy is confusing and not much fun. My only true reason for this policy is to avoid dust-ups like have happened at other forums that resulted in unpleasant things like banning.

So, let's try something different....

From now on, the General area is anything-goes. We can't go completely un-moderated, but can pull way back. Basically nobody who is currently active would do any of the things that we just can't allow - like threats of violence, posting of pornography, racial or ethnic slurs.. you get the idea. The obvious stuff.

Please guys, I'm open to everyone's input, even if you just want to tell me I'm an a-hole (though that would be best left to PMs). Even if you hate my guts or are super pissed-off at me right now, please vent to me and let me know what you want from the site. I will do my best, but just remember that everyone's needs/desires have to be considered.

Thanks,
-Jay

 

[Jay]

Duly noted - Smilies are good.

I really did mean that with a bit of a grin on my face, but somehow I don't think I smiley would have expressed it properly.

 

[764]

JM's an adult, why is everyone holding his hand?

sheesh...

Jay stick with it, no politics... There are plenty of forums for that like rpm said.

 

[Flyin V]

Because what Jay said, and how he meant it were two different things.

Who is holding JM's hand?

 

[Jay]

It's all good.. I would be miffed too if I felt like I was getting oppressed and didn't think I did anything wrong.

 

[Guest]

Originally posted by 764
JM's an adult, why is everyone holding his hand?

sheesh...

Jay stick with it, no politics... There are plenty of forums for that like rpm said.

First.. off Nobody hurt my feelings!!! Just pissed me off rather...

2nd Jay.. I accept your apology... Tahnk You...

3rd for the love of God.. It wasn't meant political... I would said the same thing if it would have been any other well known figure, wheather political, famous(actor/actress)... it doeasn't matter...

And 4th.....Dave Fuk you... I've done nothing to you on here...

 

[Jay]

Jody, it was political in the sense that it involves a politician and people have very strong feelings about the issue. Don't force me to get into an argument over what was said versus how it was interpreted for political gain.

If people are getting in an uproar over it - which we all know they are - THEN IT IS POLITICAL.

What about this is not sinking in?

And 764 and Jody you both need to cut the crap. I know you're not best buddies but let's keep it civil.

 

[frotrk]

i am with rpm on this one.
Clark

 

[764]

Originally posted by Jay
<snip>
And 764 and Jody you both need to cut the crap. I know you're not best buddies but let's keep it civil.

OK

 

[Guest]

Originally posted by RPM+--><div class='quotetop'>(RPM)</div>

<!--QuoteBegin-JMcClure

I would said the same thing if it would have been any other well known figure, wheather political, famous(actor/actress)... it doeasn't matter...

OK then, let's pick on the Dixie Chicks!!!! :\ :nod: :\ :nod: :\ :nod: [/b]

I hate the Dixie Chicks!!! never really cared for them... IN A MUSIC KINDA WAY!!!!!

 

[Guest]

Originally posted by Jay
Jody, it was political in the sense that it involves a politician and people have very strong feelings about the issue. Don't force me to get into an argument over what was said versus how it was interpreted for political gain.

If people are getting in an uproar over it - which we all know they are - THEN IT IS POLITICAL.

What about this is not sinking in?

And 764 and Jody you both need to cut the crap. I know you're not best buddies but let's keep it civil.

OK if you insist it was political, then I guess it was political!!!