Who Needs 10" wide Rims ?

NMKAWIERIDER · March 16th, 2009, 12:40 PM

All this time we have been told its OK to run our wide tires on these 7 & 8" rims while deep down we know its wrong. We don't do it on our cars & trucks, so we shouldn't have to with our ATVs. Wide tires on skinny rims bows the tread surface, distorting the contact patch, overly bouldges the sidewalls and makes the beed seat incorrectly. I for one am not about to put 8 or 9" wide tires all the way around on my machine just so I can fit the available rims. It's time we voice our interest. Afterall, WE.. are the market.

I have contacted ITP with this request and expressed that it is time for the top supplier of ATV rims to take the next step - offer a 10" wide rim in a 12 and 14" version. Like Percision Racing on the steering stablizer, the interest has to be there. So, if you have an interest in having the correct rim with your 10-12" tires, then send a quick email to the address below and say
"Hi ITP, I am another that would like to see a 10" wide rim"

Thanks everyone. With a little luck, we will soon have another choice available.

Pat McGuire:
pat.mcguire@carlisletire.com

ITP Costomer Service:
customerservice@itptires.com

07galaxy650 · March 18th, 2009, 02:09 AM

I just emailed them. I was fixing to order a new set of wheels and tires, but may wait now and see what they come up with.

NMKAWIERIDER · March 18th, 2009, 10:06 AM

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I just emailed them. I was fixing to order a new set of wheels and tires, but may wait now and see what they come up with.

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Me too. I'm ready for a new set, but I am just sick of putting fat tires on skinny wheels. We should have the option to have our tires right....besides...think how those 10"ers would look on your brute, and the handling & traction of a tire in its correct position!! I could put 10s on my 8" wheels...but I want new wheels...actualy like yours..and not 14s so my only choice is a 7" wheel. That's just not right. Some of us are having sidewall problems because they are just hanging out there so far, they are getting caught of all kinds of stuff...ripping the rubber. If they were more straight, we wouldn't be hardly talking about it. And how about how it contacts the ground. Ever put the correct amount of air in, then set your Brute on concrete then get down and see if the tire make contact all the way accross? Bet you will find like I have that the outside edges are pulled in so much because of the wheel that its rounded and just touching in the center. Bet you have to let a lot of air out to make the outside edges just touch.. let alone make real contact. And are the lugs waring faster in the center then the outside? Bet they are. That's just not right either. I have to let these 11" XTRs down to 3lbs to make full contact even with the weight of the Brute on them. Now if I take the tire off one side of the wheel and set it on the ground, by itself...not on the Brute, it contacts all the way across in its natural position and the beed is more then 2" away from the wheel to do that so even with these 8" wheels I have, its not right. 11s & 12 for sure need 10" wide wheels. 10" tires probably ok with 8"wheels...but not 7s.. IMO.

Sorry...I was rambling...

gusmx5 · March 18th, 2009, 12:47 PM

My rear rims that are far wider than 7" aren't good?
They have a very big offset and they have a big difference from my front.Imagin that on these rims my friend wears the 28" bighorns without spacers.
FYI i am wearing the douglass rattlesnake rims...

NMKAWIERIDER · March 18th, 2009, 01:22 PM

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My rear rims that are far wider than 7" aren't good?
They have a very big offset and they have a big difference from my front.Imagin that on these rims my friend wears the 28" bighorns without spacers.
FYI i am wearing the douglass rattlesnake rims...[/b]

Tires might be wider but Douglas rattlesnakes only come 7"s wide.. both 12 & 14 versions. On a wider wheel, the offset numbers will change, but the tire is already taking up the room. We just wat the rim a bit wider...equal expansion on both sides. That shouldn't be a problem. The tire will just have less or no sidewall pouch.

Put a straight edge across your tire completely from the front side of the tire to the back, then measure the distance from the straight edge to the beed area of the rim. If it exceeds 1", it's incorrect. Most any tire pro will tell you that. I have 27x11x14 XTRs on 8" vision wheels, and I have 1 3/4". You guys with the same tire on 7" rims have to be at or over 2". Gus, you have car tires on yours if I remember, which you can get in any size to match the rim. Yours probably fit just fine. However, we use only ATV-type tires.

BrianMc · March 21st, 2009, 12:21 AM

Most tires are designed to have a bulge. If you measure bead to bead on a tire that is not installed on a wheel, and is not squished, you will see it is not even close to the section width of the casing. If your 10" tires are mounted on a 10" wide wheels, just think how much damage you could cause to the face of your wheel without having that sidewall bulge to deflect the impact.

NMKAWIERIDER · March 21st, 2009, 01:35 AM

I guess that's why they say over an inch is not advised. Besides, what's it going to be, a scratched rim or a ripped sidewall on a 130+ dollar tire. I'll take the scratch any day.

BrianMc · March 22nd, 2009, 01:50 AM

I can understand this for someone running 12 wide and bigger...but it would look silly with anything smaller than that. Ive worked in the tire indurstry since i was 18, and have mounted my fair share of narrow tires on wheels that are to wide IMO. For example, kids with their import tuner cars that feel the need to run 18's, 19's, and 20's and are forced to run small tires just for clearance. Just today I mounted a set of 215/30/20's on 20x7.5 wheels..sure the tread width might be close to 7.5, but the bead to bead width is quite a bit less...when aired up, it looks ridiculous. the bead seat angle is just as bad, if not worse than running wider tires on narrow rims. and IMO, you would have much greater chance and blowing a bead on a high speed corner with a quad tires at low pressure like this.

NMKAWIERIDER · March 22nd, 2009, 09:34 AM

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I can understand this for someone running 12 wide and bigger...but it would look silly with anything smaller than that. Ive worked in the tire indurstry since i was 18, and have mounted my fair share of narrow tires on wheels that are to wide IMO. For example, kids with their import tuner cars that feel the need to run 18's, 19's, and 20's and are forced to run small tires just for clearance. Just today I mounted a set of 215/30/20's on 20x7.5 wheels..sure the tread width might be close to 7.5, but the bead to bead width is quite a bit less...when aired up, it looks ridiculous. the bead seat angle is just as bad, if not worse than running wider tires on narrow rims. and IMO, you would have much greater chance and blowing a bead on a high speed corner with a quad tires at low pressure like this.[/b]

Sure would. That's going the other way on the beed angle. Funny what people will do and think is Okay. I'm sure if you had a tire that the beed to beed width was 11" and you had your choice if a 7" or a 10" rim, you would probably grab the 10" first. By the same token, if you had a beed to beed width of 7" you would find one equal to or less...for sure not wider. I guess the best thing is to check the beed to beed natural width and make your choice of wheel. It just would be nice to have one more option open to us is all I'm saying.

BrianMc · March 22nd, 2009, 01:00 PM

nothing wrong with more options :rocker: