Tools to have and things to do...

ATVOttawa · March 9th, 2010, 08:48 PM

I am going to assemble a toolkit for my bike. What tools should I gather and where is a good place to get them? I live in Canada so I really do not want to order from the states.

I have the official bruteforce shop manual, how critical is the belt deflection? Do you really need all the tool listed in that manual? I got 3800kms on my belt now, should it be replaced?

Any other info is greatly appreciated, thx

NMKAWIERIDER · March 9th, 2010, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ATVOttawa

I am going to assemble a toolkit for my bike. What tools should I gather and where is a good place to get them? I live in Canada so I really do not want to order from the states.

I have the official bruteforce shop manual, how critical is the belt deflection? Do you really need all the tool listed in that manual? I got 3800kms on my belt now, should it be replaced?

Any other info is greatly appreciated, thx

I just put togerher some necessary basics like 8,10,12,14,15,17mm end wrenches, a 3/8s ratchet with a 10,14 & 17mm scockets, an extention. A couple of screwdrivers, a thin bar nail puller to use as a shoehorn when rolling-on my stretched-out old belt, my stock CDI..couse you never know... leatherman, 12Volt plugin light, mini compressor just in cast the co2s aren't enough, plugs and tools to go with that.

That's about it.

Belt should be between 22 and 27mms on deflection. Its long life depends on that. should you replace it? Just depends on age and condition. If its slipping or has slipped and smoked, or if you are loosing pieces of it.. then yes. But if the contact edges are good, not burned or fraying, I'd just set the deflection and keep going. BUT 3800 kms is 2361 miles...Man I would change it if I were going in there anyway. That's pretty high miles on a belt.

BrianMc · March 9th, 2010, 11:03 PM

I pack a leatherman, screwdrivers, 8mm, 10mm open end wrench, and the junky tools the bike came with. I dont worry about tire repair kits since I run 6ply bias tires and they dont go "flat" with no air in them so i can get back to my truck, or finish riding.

so far the only things ive had to fix on the trail were a tie rod end, and tighten up the old steering stem bushings.

highcountryrider · March 10th, 2010, 01:45 PM

I keep most of my tools in the truck. I have belt and tie rod ends jack and a stk tie rod just in case. I keep wenches in quad tool box. A flat tire kit in the tool box on quad. A toe rope in cace I need to get back to truck. Hope I never need them.

ATVOttawa · March 10th, 2010, 07:45 PM

How do you guys check deflection? I used a straight edge I could get in there and pushed down on the belt with ' the right amount of pressure'.....lol. I don't have the tools for checking that, should I invest in them? What about to change that belt do I need the KAWI tools? clutch puller? secondary puller? retainer? or any of the other tools?

To change that clutch spring, do you need special tools for that? I am going to run 26-28" tires, still dont know yet. I have till May 24 weekend to decide. If I don't get the response I like I will change the spring.

thx guys

NMKAWIERIDER · March 10th, 2010, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ATVOttawa

How do you guys check deflection? I used a straight edge I could get in there and pushed down on the belt with ' the right amount of pressure'.....lol. I don't have the tools for checking that, should I invest in them? What about to change that belt do I need the KAWI tools? clutch puller? secondary puller? retainer? or any of the other tools?

To change that clutch spring, do you need special tools for that? I am going to run 26-28" tires, still dont know yet. I have till May 24 weekend to decide. If I don't get the response I like I will change the spring.

thx guys

Deflection: I use a steel straight edge, a ground-off square shaft screwdriver, small visegrips and a caliper the measures milimeters. Set the edge across both clutches, with the screwdriver positioned next to the straight edge push down with firm pressure where the deflection is greatest then lock it to the straightedge with the visegrips. Then measure the distance between the bottom of the straightedge and the end on the screw driver. Be sure to place the screwdriver on a high cogg not in a grove and it must be very blunt and centered on the belt. Set 22-27mm

You will need a clutch puller and a compressor for the secondary if you need to adjust the deflection. Also a tork wrench. No puller needed to just change the primary spring.

ATVOttawa · March 11th, 2010, 08:10 PM

Thx, I guess I am going to go and get the right tools for the job. I really do not feel like paying the dealer to do a belt change and adjustment, and I also don't feel like paying the dealer for the tools either. I am going to try and source them elseware.

I guess I will need to get some shims as well?

NMKAWIERIDER · March 11th, 2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ATVOttawa

Thx, I guess I am going to go and get the right tools for the job. I really do not feel like paying the dealer to do a belt change and adjustment, and I also don't feel like paying the dealer for the tools either. I am going to try and source them elseware.

I guess I will need to get some shims as well?

You can get everything from EPI, and/or you could make your own compressor. There are some how-to around here on that. On the shims, you should have enough already in the secondary to make must any adjustment. Mist cime with four. Two are like 5 thousands and two are about half that. You take out to tighten deflection, and a little goes a long way. I think a thin one is worth like 4-6mm deflection change. I lucked out. I just replaced my belt and put back in all four originals and it came out exactly 24mm deflection.

BrianMc · March 12th, 2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ATVOttawa

Thx, I guess I am going to go and get the right tools for the job. I really do not feel like paying the dealer to do a belt change and adjustment, and I also don't feel like paying the dealer for the tools either. I am going to try and source them elseware.

I guess I will need to get some shims as well?

Go into your dealer, and tell them you want to order the EPI clutch puller/compresssor from their PARTS CANADA catalogue. every dealership up here has access to this. You can even go to www.partscanada.com and get the part numbers for your dealer to make it easy on them.

ATVOttawa · March 13th, 2010, 09:42 AM

One more thing!!!

What do you guys use to hold the secondary and clutch while you are wrenching or torquing it?